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 Hi Mike,

 I am of the opinion that the purpose of numerical design in the  bible is to provide delight for those who trust in God and treasure his word.
 
 I really do not suppose that his purpose is to challenge the unbeliever  to believe such means, as God does this continually and powerfully at  the surface level.
 
 If a person has an open mind then that is a different issue and  conviction can easily occur when confronted with astounding coincidences  of numbers.
 
 The atheist is unlikely to be moved however, but is more likely to be  driven deeper into rejection of God.  There are scriptures to explain this unfortunate reaction, and they  refer to men rejecting light and the reason why they do.
 
 As far as providing you with background material on the significance of  numbers there is a book titled "The Seal of God" by F C Payne. I had  read this book before I encountered Panin. Basically it would appear  that God has "watermarked" the bible with checksums (my words). The one  about Pilate's placard on the cross is one such instance.  God obviously was at no pains to broadcast this message and its  watermark and it was left to plodders like me to fall over it. My  purpose at the time was to just see whether there were other watermarks  than those which I knew about, and when I found a corker example I was  satisfied. I could probably find others if I took the time to  investigate further. I have done no further work on numbers in the last  twenty years.
 
 Breaking News: [Family member D] has just returned from church bearing a book  entitled "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel. I am about to commence  reading it.  She has also mentioned a number of DVD's about a recent high profile debate between creationists and their opponents. These are available at  the local Computer den where my Linux guru Mike Pav works. I'll check  to see exactly what they are called but this could be the proper  intelligent debate that you have been seeking from me (and not getting).
 
Cheers  [Family member B]


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